Dating Forum

[Afemaleguest]

Dear friends,
I really appreciate your search for truth, goodness gracious:-)...ok
Just a simple comment regarding us, Russians and the way you treat us in the internet...only dont flush it
when you finish reading, pleassssssssse:-)
Just a simple comment regarding scammers.
See, I am a decent simple-hearted Russian girl, Oksana is my name.
I am a modest teacher of English but due to Russian economy I have to have a bunch
of not so very well payed part-time jobs, including teaching, interpreting, pcycology.
Of course I am not satisfied with Russian reality and of course I want to relocate..but
not for the sake of relocating ONLY, I want this step to be based on mutual attraction,
love e.t.c...well, hopefully you understand me. So me not being a mercenary girl, I cant
figure out: where do you see this scammers success? I think these are more exaggerated
stories of men. Let me reveal you one simple and, alas, as it seems to me, eternal truth:
men from abroad are unbelievably GREEDY and they NEVER ever trust...even if you dont ask
them for anything at all (my case: I try to be always responsible and decent and neutral
in my letters)..but the undeniable fact based on my personal experience is that during
2 years (!) of me sincerely and ardently trying to find a husband, by means of writing
super-numerous letters (making all of them PERSONAL), putting my HEART into
relationship....me, the girl, who knows English much better than the vast majority of
these Russian dolls:-)...me, who is really GENUINE in my intention to find LOVE....I have
NEVER been presented even a single FLOWER or a mere post-card for my birthday, not talking
of New Year, good old Valentine e.t.c........
So, dear friends, my question is: where do you find these victims of the horrible Russian
scammers. I have never seen any...though maybe its because I never tried and will never
try to ask for a simple jesture of attention.......but I think that no matter whether
you ask or not ask you will still be left without flowers, believe my big experience!
Russian men are different. Its a pity the country is rolling down to alcohol and drugs...
Otherwise I would stay here.
But on the other hand I see hardly anything to do with the generosity of the HEART
(not wallet...wallet is only the reflection of this trait, if you want) on the behalf
of your dear Western male-idividuals...but I dont give up! I still hope to find a simple normal
guy who would not hesitate to send me a candy at least once a year - for my birthday...or...
maybe a crumb of bread..just kidding:-) But, honestly speaking, believe me, I never beg for alms...and
the conclusion is that whatever happens I would rather die than ask for anything.
Though the foreign men would not display any generosity in 99 percents out of 100 cases...
trust my grave statistics! So I guess I am doomed to always get letters from men about
mistrust, scammers, e.t.c.....based on NOTHING in my personal case.
So, dear friends, my hope to find a normal simple-hearted not sceptical guy is almost at zero.
I wrote feedback letters during my free time, and I hardly have mental or moral energy
to prove to every single guy that I am me and not a con, and that black is not white...see
what you are doing?
But no problem, I will continue to loose my eye sight writing constant
self-justifications, that humiliate both me and..my nation.
Please tell me what should I do if I am from Russia...should I pray to God that people trust me..because actions that speak louder than words do nothing?
You are treating women with equality over there, as I see........
WEll, I dont know what else to say...but my soul is still in agony and it
needs expression.
Once again thank you concerning your sense of justice. Its already so
natural to be insulted by foreign men..it does not astonish me
already..though..
Nobody paid money for ANYTHING in my life. I always worked HARD. But I guess that when a
person trusts some weird girl who does not deserve any trust because she
speaks hardly a word of English and asks for Kingdom in return, well its easy to despise me
who actually is real and has a bit more brains/pictures to reason with - in addition..which
actually should be regarded as a BONUS by any sainly-thinking individual..but no!
Mistrust only enhances owing to these "good" scores and factores!
I call it a N-A-T-U-R-A-L Murphy law:-).
Never mind, if you dont believe, let it be a big compliment for me as for a normal nice girl,
so I am touched I guess.
I have no scars on my biography, and its ME, come and see. I
need nothing from men, no money, no gifts. Nothing. Just wanted to talk and
be friends. But first - I wanted somebody to start believing me - at
least a little..to begin with, you know:-).
I feel that nobody is any different, so I decided to just be philosophic and not
take it so close to my heart..otherwise MY heart will stop..its not
made of iron..and two years of constant insults of Westerners actually had
their impact on my health and moral condition.
And this heart of mine has had enough of negativity of mens suspicions
during all this time.
Too much for my age, decency, vulnerability and sense of justice.
Sorry, but this is my sincere outlook on the matter.
NOTHING TO HIDE FROM SOCIETY!....and you guys:-)

Morally exhausted, physically tired, but not giving up:-),
continuously non-mercenary Oksana.. - whose decency you all continuously dare to doubt
even in the cases when you have known her for a long time during which any self-respecting lier would have
dropped the relationship at a much earlier stage. But I am still talking to Westerners. Why?
Think about "why".....maybe...because I like a benefit of doubt? No!
Because I am an idiot who believe in love...stupid naive me:-)

P.S. If anyone is SERIOUSLY interested, write to me: my address is victor at vlink dot. ru:-)..it has nothing to do with any guy, its because my name is Oksana Victorovna.
Again: victor@vlink.ru

[Stirlitz]

Being a translator, I have seen both greedy men and scammer women. Whatever you look at (dating, work) there are bad people and good people, it is an individual luck of coming across only bad ones all the time. And, I am surprized to read that no one has sent Oxana a flower. I have personally delivered more than one bunch of flowers in behalf of my clients, and some of them were very generous. So, the bottom line is that it depends.

[Patryk]

Hey guy's. I have sent flowers to nice ladies in the Ukraine, Oksana I am sorry that I missed you. I will send you a card and flowers..
Is this a live site or what????
Cheers Patrick

[Stirlitz]

It seems that the page rank is very low.

[admin]

We are alive ,
and we will be more then happy to help you with the flowers or a post card delivery. Just let me know what and where should be delivered.

[peter_au]

Oksana, I think you are about right. But there are many scammers. They unexpectedly contact males who post their ads into large dating sites. They are completely different from you. They would send emails full of passionate things and even nude/revealing images to entice the men. Then they would ask for money for all sorts of reasons but mainly for tickets to visit the men.

Men overseas are greedy? Yes. Most men and women are greedy regardless if they are in any part of the world. And it's quite true that most men who look for brides from overseas are not quite the attractive ones or rich ones. Otherwise the local ladies would not give them a break to look overseas! So asking to get a prince charming is not advisable. However there are genuine men of less than the perfect type who find it difficult to look for a wife locally. Perhaps he is too busy and the local girls are too tough. Perhaps he is a bit older and would like to have a younger wife. Do expect that men are not quite the most charming ones when they seek a wife from overseas.

The best way to date is still through personal introduction or meeting people on business trips! When things are too good to be true, then they are not true.

Anyway I hope you will find better propositions soon. I also recommend picking a hobby that you love best. Find forums on the Internet for that hobby and create friendships with males on those forums. One day, you may find one of them poping a question and start a friendship, then eventually that may lead to romance. That's much better. Good things take time! I think if you just try to be optimistic and try to be a cheerful and forgiving person at all times, men will really appreciate that and discover you. There is nothing worse than be sarcastic or resentful when people get into the dating game.

Also I hope Russian economy will become better soon. Russian people deserve more than what they have now. We also need to neutralise the USA's hegemony for a better world.

BTW, the habit of flower sending habit is probably not quite a custom in Western culture. In Russia I heard the International Women Day is a huge day. Russian ladies love flowers. Flowers are more important to Russian ladies than Western ladies. I think it's fair to say that Western men only send flowers to girl friends or girls they think within their grasp. They just don't send flowers to acquaintances or non-romantic friends.

[wyldfyre]

'Tis true, there are many "scammers" both male and femme. I. myself, caught the "dirty end of the stick" before, in an experience which would "raise your hair" were I to relate it to you.

Aside from that, anyone thinking the "economical reality" of MOST in the US is any better....well, there may be a few advantages, but, honestly, it is not but SO much better for most here.

While SOME FEW relationships started out of financial need do bear fruit, they are few and far between....

and those that do not work are rarely worth the expenditures, financial and otherwise.....for either party.

I agree with Oksana wholeheartedly.
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A true southern gentleman who holds dearly the values and ways of the Old South, except for the prejudices many (wrongly) associate with such.

[john86]

Hi, I certainly agree with you. Your advice is really very helpful for us.
Thanks a lot!